I know for many that this is an issue that bores... and that many think, as David Horowitz writes in the piece I'm posting below, that it's sore loserism... But no matter how hard I look at the issue I can't get away from the fact that Obama is fighting it. If it's not big deal, produce the birth certificate.
Settle the issue once and for all. WHY is he going to court over it? Why would he give conservatives an issue like this one? Why are so many people looking into it and coming up with more questions rather than answers?
Here's what I posted on the Read My Lipstick Network with more of my thoughts added. I don't like to go into too much of my personal thoughts on the RMLN blog as it's more for general news than MY opinions (although I do get carried away sometimes I know ;-).
Rec'd the following from "The Intellectual Redneck" as a comment on a previous RMLN blog. We can't publish things on here in their entirety from other blogs or publications, can only publish links and a few lines (professional courtesy, and it's illegal, too ;-). Thus, I'm including a link to The Intellectual Redneck (cause it's a good blog even though they're not a member of our Network) here: http://bloggingredneck.blogspot.com/, and then I'm liking to the comment and the original story.
The following, which is excellent as The Intellectual Redneck pointed out, is posted on the History News Network as a comment on "David Horowitz: Obama Derangement Syndrome ... Conservatives Need to Shut Up About the Birth Certificate". Hank Rand makes a very credible case for continuing the quest to have Barack Obama stop stonewalling and produce the easily located piece of paper that will stop all the legal challenges in their tracks. There is NO legitimate reason not to produce a birth certificate if it exists.
If I am to understand David Horowitz correctly, he asserts we should void the Constitution because 64 million voters chose Barack Obama. I would hope that if the question were posed to all 64 million: "Would you void the Constitution of the United States to elect a President", enough would choose to answer No to drop the number of voters for Obama substantially if they followed that through to its logical conclusion.
However, insert the name Barack Obama for President in that question and I would guess that number wouldn't drop quite so drastically. Although I seriously doubt most who punched the Obama name on the ballot knew about the question of his place of birth, and if they did, they "assumed" it was Republican hype.
Horowitz gives Alan Keyes the credit for pushing the birth certificate issue. He is incorrect. Keyes is just the latest to get on the bandwagon. His article, in my humble opinion, is NOT well thought out.
I'll take it one step further for Horowitz... why isn't it important? Why shouldn't we know the birthplace of our President? If it were another issue in the Constitution would Horowitz be so quick to chalk it up to sore loserism? If, instead of Barack Obama, we substituted the name Bill Ayers, or Chavez, or Arnold Schwarzenegger, would he write the same article? What if everyone had gone to the polls and written in the name George Bush giving him a third term? Yes, I know that could never happen given the way the media has trashed Bush, but what if? The voters would have spoken.
Either the Constitution is right, or it is wrong. Either we live by its statements, or we don't. This is a bigger issue than Barack Obama's birth certificate in my mind. This is an issue of lines, of where we're heading in this country, of what is really important.
Mr. Obama needs to produce his birth certificate if he can do so and stop fighting. Unfortunately, I think he's well aware that the chances of the Supreme Court handing down an unfavorable ruling, negating the vote, is highly unlikely. The question will remain. Once he's circumvented the Constitution, the rest of the path he's outlining should be easy going.
Really? (#129849)
http://hnn.us/comments/129849.html
by Hank Rand on December 6, 2008 at 9:44 PM"What difference does it make to the future of this country whether Obama was born on US soil? Advocates of this destructive campaign will argue that the Constitutional principle regarding the qualifications for President trumps all others. But how viable will our Constitution be if 5 Supreme Court justices should decide to void 64 million ballots?"A proponent of the reality that there is an outstanding question that exists relating to Barack Obama's natural born citizenship (not that I have an answer, but rather simply that no answer has been given), my personal opinion is that this has less to do with the merit of this particular Constitutional law...and more to do with the character and integrity of a man who may have gone to such great lengths to, knowingly, break it. And in that course of action, our entire country (not just those who didn't vote for him) and our most coveted process of Democracy (our vote), were defrauded.
http://hnn.us/comments/129849.html
David Horowitz: Obama Derangement Syndrome ... Conservatives Need to Shut Up About the Birth Certificate
http://hnn.us/roundup/comments/57846.htmlSource: Special to HNN (12-6-08)The continuing efforts of a fringe group of conservatives to deny Obama his victory and to lay the basis for the claim that he is not a legitimate president is embarrassing and destructive. The fact that these efforts are being led by Alan Keyes, an unhinged demagogue on the political fringe who lost a senate election to the then unknown Obama by 42 points should be a warning in itself.
http://hnn.us/roundup/comments/57846.html
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Sunday, December 7, 2008
Saturday, November 22, 2008
Obama Birth Certificate Issue / Update
Linda Shaw rocks! She is doing such a fantastic job of keeping us posted on this issue! Did you see where the Kenyan government is either going to or is debating putting up a shrine at what they say is Obama's BIRTH PLACE in Kenya? Those folks are just swollen with pride that one of their natural born citizens has grown up to be President of the United States... I'll go back and find the story on that one for you, post it later.
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You already have been sent info on contacting Congress. Here is a letter you can use. It takes into account info from the Berg (1st) and Keys (the latest) lawsuit.
This can happen but it is a fight to the finish. I know some do not believe in doing it but if Keyes is successful, which I think he has the better shot than any of them, then things will go from there. If you have not read Keyes lawsuit yet, you are missing out as he covers all that others did not and actually gives cases in the past that the SOS did take someone off the ballot after verification proving it is their job.
I would appreciate you passing it on to others in case they would like to participate.
- Linda
Date
The Honorable (full name)(Room #) (Name)
Senate Office Building
United States Senate
Washington, DC 20510
Dear (Senator) (Representative)
Our Founding Fathers placed in the Constitution restrictions on who could be the Vice President and Commander-in-Chief. There is a potential danger and risk that could be brought about by a national leader with possible divided loyalties and personal entanglements in foreign lands. Therefore, it was deemed wise to restrict those posts to natural-born individuals without dual citizenships. The 20th amendment identifies the time prior to inauguration for objections to be made to the qualifications of Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates. In this missive, a clear unimpeachable argument is made that Barack Obama has yet to provide support for the proposition that he meets that Constitutional bar.
Despite much public demand, Mr. Obama has not provided access to a vault Birth Certificate proving his actual place of birth. Moreover, the “short form” evidence released by the Obama campaign purporting to be a “Certification of Live Birth” on its face appears to be of questionable authenticity. The question of the authenticity is really moot as the real problem is it does not address any of the detail required to answer the question of actual place of birth.
The press release issued on October 31, 2008, by the Hawaii Department of Health regarding Obama's original birth certificate fails to resolve any of the questions raised in litigation since Hawaii has two types of original birth certificates. Therefore, the only way to verify the exact location of birth is to review a certified copy or¿¿ the original vault Certificate of Live Birth and compare the name of the hospital and the name and the signature of the doctor against the birthing records on file at the hospital noted on the Certificate of the Live Birth.
An often-asked question: Why Is his birth location important since his mother was a U.S. citizen?
The residency requirements for the US citizen parent are different than today, Section 301(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), as amended, would be in effect at the time of Mr. Obama’s birth in 1961. Based on this law, if Barack Obama was born outside the US or its Outlying Possessions, on August 4, 1961, then Ms. Dunham could not transmit her citizenship to her son because she failed to have accumulated the necessary physical presence requirements that the LAW demanded.
It is that simple. If he was born in Kenya, then he is not, nor can he ever be eligible to hold the office of President of the United States of America, inasmuch as he does not, nor can he ever, fulfill the requirements of Article II, Clause V, of the Constitution of the United States. Now, the question remains to be answered if he was born in Kenya or not.
If he was born in Hawaii, there are other obstacles to Senator Obama’s eligibility. Mr. Obama, in and about 1967, moved to Indonesia. took the last name of his stepfather, Soetoro, and was registered at school by the name Barry Soetoro showing citizenship as Indonesian. This creates complications with dual-citizenship. During that time, Indonesia did not recognize dual-citizenship and the U.S. only recognized when the other country did. It was also prohibited by the Hague Convention of 1930, as interfering with the internal affairs of another sovereign Country. This brings into question whether or not Mr. Obama went to the then current immigration procedures to regain the U.S. citizenship. Since Mr. Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981, when there was a ban for U.S. citizens to travel to Pakistan, it leads us to believe that he did not go through the process to regain his U.S. citizenship. Even if he had done so, he would be considered a naturalized citizen and not a “natural born” citizen.
It is your duty to uphold the constitution. Therefore, we the citizens of the United States ask that you initiate a congressional investigation and demand documentary proof that Senator Obama is a “natural born” citizen of the United States of America. This proof could include items such as his original birth certificate, showing the name of the hospital and the name and the signature of the doctor, all of his passports with immigration stamps, and verification from the governments where the candidate has resided, verifying that he did not, and does not, hold citizenship of these countries, or any other documents that certify an individual’s citizenship and/or qualification for office.
Although there have been questions for months about Mr.Obama’s eligibility, the first lawsuit was filed on August 21, 2008. What is troubling and frustrating is that the questions could have easily been answered by Mr. Obama. However, he has refused to provide his vault birth certificate. Why would he not want to provide it?
Senator Obama could be compromised if he is not a natural born citizen, which means our country is compromised. The secret briefings he is now receiving should stop immediately. This citizenship issue could resurface during an Obama presidency. If he has ever presented himself as a US citizen or with dual citizenship, during international travel and/or on official applications for any institution such as a university, other people will know (or find out) about it. He might be vulnerable to domestic or foreign blackmail, or pressed for favors, which are not in the best interests of the average American.
We ask you again, as concerned citizens and patriots, to launch an investigation or to file a challenge against the electors who will vote on December 15th. Failure to grant this request to verify the constitutionally required qualifications of Senator Obama not only allows, but promotes, an overwhelming degree of disrespect for our Constitution and for our electoral process, would allow a potentially corrupted, fraudulent, nomination and election process to continue.
For Constitutional government,
(your signature)
(your name)
A Friend of the Court and a citizen of the United States of America
(your address)
(your phone number)
(your email address)
For further information contact:
Philip J. Berg, Esquire555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531Cell (610) 662-3005(610) 825-3134(800) 993-PHIL [7445]Fax (610) 834-7659philjberg@obamacrimes.com
Reference for your review:
PA Philip J. Berg lawsuit: all documents
http://www.obamacrimes.com/index.php/component/finder/search?q=court+documents+attached
CA Ambassador Dr. Alan Keyes; Dr. Wiley S. Drake, Sr.; Markham Robinson lawsuit http://americamustknow.com/Documents/Final%20writ%20Keyes%20v%20Bowen.pdf
Current Washington Times Ad running regarding Obama’s citizenship
http://www.obamacrimes.com/attachments/065_Obama%20Crimes%20Ad%20-%20Wash%20Times%2020081117.pdf
Obama's Birth Certificate Verified By State
http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html?rss=hon&psp=news
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You already have been sent info on contacting Congress. Here is a letter you can use. It takes into account info from the Berg (1st) and Keys (the latest) lawsuit.
This can happen but it is a fight to the finish. I know some do not believe in doing it but if Keyes is successful, which I think he has the better shot than any of them, then things will go from there. If you have not read Keyes lawsuit yet, you are missing out as he covers all that others did not and actually gives cases in the past that the SOS did take someone off the ballot after verification proving it is their job.
I would appreciate you passing it on to others in case they would like to participate.
- Linda
Date
The Honorable (full name)(Room #) (Name)
Senate Office Building
United States Senate
Washington, DC 20510
Dear (Senator) (Representative)
Our Founding Fathers placed in the Constitution restrictions on who could be the Vice President and Commander-in-Chief. There is a potential danger and risk that could be brought about by a national leader with possible divided loyalties and personal entanglements in foreign lands. Therefore, it was deemed wise to restrict those posts to natural-born individuals without dual citizenships. The 20th amendment identifies the time prior to inauguration for objections to be made to the qualifications of Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates. In this missive, a clear unimpeachable argument is made that Barack Obama has yet to provide support for the proposition that he meets that Constitutional bar.
Despite much public demand, Mr. Obama has not provided access to a vault Birth Certificate proving his actual place of birth. Moreover, the “short form” evidence released by the Obama campaign purporting to be a “Certification of Live Birth” on its face appears to be of questionable authenticity. The question of the authenticity is really moot as the real problem is it does not address any of the detail required to answer the question of actual place of birth.
The press release issued on October 31, 2008, by the Hawaii Department of Health regarding Obama's original birth certificate fails to resolve any of the questions raised in litigation since Hawaii has two types of original birth certificates. Therefore, the only way to verify the exact location of birth is to review a certified copy or¿¿ the original vault Certificate of Live Birth and compare the name of the hospital and the name and the signature of the doctor against the birthing records on file at the hospital noted on the Certificate of the Live Birth.
An often-asked question: Why Is his birth location important since his mother was a U.S. citizen?
The residency requirements for the US citizen parent are different than today, Section 301(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), as amended, would be in effect at the time of Mr. Obama’s birth in 1961. Based on this law, if Barack Obama was born outside the US or its Outlying Possessions, on August 4, 1961, then Ms. Dunham could not transmit her citizenship to her son because she failed to have accumulated the necessary physical presence requirements that the LAW demanded.
It is that simple. If he was born in Kenya, then he is not, nor can he ever be eligible to hold the office of President of the United States of America, inasmuch as he does not, nor can he ever, fulfill the requirements of Article II, Clause V, of the Constitution of the United States. Now, the question remains to be answered if he was born in Kenya or not.
If he was born in Hawaii, there are other obstacles to Senator Obama’s eligibility. Mr. Obama, in and about 1967, moved to Indonesia. took the last name of his stepfather, Soetoro, and was registered at school by the name Barry Soetoro showing citizenship as Indonesian. This creates complications with dual-citizenship. During that time, Indonesia did not recognize dual-citizenship and the U.S. only recognized when the other country did. It was also prohibited by the Hague Convention of 1930, as interfering with the internal affairs of another sovereign Country. This brings into question whether or not Mr. Obama went to the then current immigration procedures to regain the U.S. citizenship. Since Mr. Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981, when there was a ban for U.S. citizens to travel to Pakistan, it leads us to believe that he did not go through the process to regain his U.S. citizenship. Even if he had done so, he would be considered a naturalized citizen and not a “natural born” citizen.
It is your duty to uphold the constitution. Therefore, we the citizens of the United States ask that you initiate a congressional investigation and demand documentary proof that Senator Obama is a “natural born” citizen of the United States of America. This proof could include items such as his original birth certificate, showing the name of the hospital and the name and the signature of the doctor, all of his passports with immigration stamps, and verification from the governments where the candidate has resided, verifying that he did not, and does not, hold citizenship of these countries, or any other documents that certify an individual’s citizenship and/or qualification for office.
Although there have been questions for months about Mr.Obama’s eligibility, the first lawsuit was filed on August 21, 2008. What is troubling and frustrating is that the questions could have easily been answered by Mr. Obama. However, he has refused to provide his vault birth certificate. Why would he not want to provide it?
Senator Obama could be compromised if he is not a natural born citizen, which means our country is compromised. The secret briefings he is now receiving should stop immediately. This citizenship issue could resurface during an Obama presidency. If he has ever presented himself as a US citizen or with dual citizenship, during international travel and/or on official applications for any institution such as a university, other people will know (or find out) about it. He might be vulnerable to domestic or foreign blackmail, or pressed for favors, which are not in the best interests of the average American.
We ask you again, as concerned citizens and patriots, to launch an investigation or to file a challenge against the electors who will vote on December 15th. Failure to grant this request to verify the constitutionally required qualifications of Senator Obama not only allows, but promotes, an overwhelming degree of disrespect for our Constitution and for our electoral process, would allow a potentially corrupted, fraudulent, nomination and election process to continue.
For Constitutional government,
(your signature)
(your name)
A Friend of the Court and a citizen of the United States of America
(your address)
(your phone number)
(your email address)
For further information contact:
Philip J. Berg, Esquire555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531Cell (610) 662-3005(610) 825-3134(800) 993-PHIL [7445]Fax (610) 834-7659philjberg@obamacrimes.com
Reference for your review:
PA Philip J. Berg lawsuit: all documents
http://www.obamacrimes.com/index.php/component/finder/search?q=court+documents+attached
CA Ambassador Dr. Alan Keyes; Dr. Wiley S. Drake, Sr.; Markham Robinson lawsuit http://americamustknow.com/Documents/Final%20writ%20Keyes%20v%20Bowen.pdf
Current Washington Times Ad running regarding Obama’s citizenship
http://www.obamacrimes.com/attachments/065_Obama%20Crimes%20Ad%20-%20Wash%20Times%2020081117.pdf
Obama's Birth Certificate Verified By State
http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html?rss=hon&psp=news
Sunday, November 16, 2008
Latest from Linda on Egobama's Missing Birth Credentials...
Ya gotta wonder why we're not hearing about this anywhere on the MSM...
OK, stop laughing now.
I can just hear you sputtering: "why should we expect to start hearing anything of substance NOW???"
As I've mentioned in previous posts, Linda Shaw is keeping a bunch of us updated on the latest and greatest in regards to the missing proof that Obama is constitutionally allowed to BE the President. She is great at ferreting out this info!
ANDY MARTIN
Executive Editor
ContrarianCommentary.com
"Factually Correct, Not Politically Correct"
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
INTERNET POWERHOUSE ANDY MARTIN IS BACK IN HONOLULU TO FIGHT FOR ACCESS TO BARACK OBAMA'S ORIGINAL, TYPEWRITTEN 1961 BIRTH CERTIFICATE
AN INSIDE LOOK AT THE PREPARATION NECESSARY TO PRESENT A COMPLEX CONSTITUTIONAL CASE 8,000 MILES AWAY FROM HOME
(HONOLULU)
(November 16, 2008)
Aloha from Hawai'i.
I landed in Honolulu Friday and we have set up a fully functional "fighting camp" to prepare for the court hearing Tuesday, November 18th at 10:30 A.M. on access to Barack Obama's birth certificate
This will be the first court hearing anywhere on access to the original, 1961 certificate. The only state that has jurisdiction over such a lawsuit is Hawai'i, because Hawai'i officials are the custodians of the 1961 typewritten paperwork.
Before we get to the back story, let me start with a disclaimer. I have no idea what the judge will do on Tuesday. I make no predictions, except one: I will prepare to the best of my ability and present as professional a case as the judge permits. Monday morning I will be on the street serving papers and filing with the Clerk in preparation for Tuesday.
And, looking ahead, whatever happens on Tuesday, on Wednesday we hope to launch my "Conversation With America" about our future course of action in an Obama administration. I invite all of you to join in and support this mission.
Just as the FBI always attends every Gambino Family funeral to see who is there, ContrarianCommentary.com was in Honolulu Friday to observe the "independent" (not family-sponsored) "memorial service" held in memory of Barack Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Dunham. We will have a full column later Sunday, or possibly Monday.
It occurred to me that you might appreciate some insight into the effort that goes into preparing and presenting a major piece of litigation 8,000 miles away from home.
Anyone who has read our Memorandum of Law (see the ContrarianCommentary.com blogs below for a full copy) will not be surprised that it took us the better part of a week to analyze, research, write and finalize a 25-page document (which we will be filing with the Clerk on Monday morning) setting forth why Obama's birth certificate must be made public.
If a large law firm was handling the case of Martin vs. Obama, they would probably send a minimum team of four lawyers as well as support personnel. They would have a trial counsel, a couple of associates, and a senior partner to guide the overall process. There would be at least one paralegal, possibly more. That's why high stakes litigation is so costly.
Martin vs. Obama is a high stakes lawsuit: it seeks to open a vital record of American history to public review and analysis.
And I will be working alone.
Ask any lawyer: it's not easy landing in a strange town, setting up an office and firing off legal documents in a controversial constitutional case. But we managed to file the lawsuit two days after arriving in Honolulu in October, and now we are back for the first court hearing anywhere to address the issue of Barack Obama's origins.
Landing in an unfamiliar city, any lawyer would need a support network. We managed to recreate our October "fighting camp" in 24 hours and are up and running. I dragged a printer on the 12 hour flight because we have to be able to react immediately to any development. Saturday morning we were out assembling office supplies to be ready to move quickly on Monday morning.
I even purchased a box of envelopes so that if we have a breather, we can start mailing out thank you notes to everyone who contributed to the financial support of this very costly and complex venture. There is no wasted time on a trip of this nature, and no wasted money.
I will take time off Sunday morning to attend services at Saint Andrews (Episcopal) cathedral in downtown Honolulu. And I forgot to pack my sunglasses, so I need to go shopping for a pair.
Unlike other lawsuits involving Obama, mine is narrowly and specifically focused on access to the original, typewritten 1961 certificate which Hawai'i officials have confirmed they possess. There is no way anyone can express an opinion on the circumstances of Obama's birth without seeing the vital gateway document. I have refrained from speculating on the contents of the original because my focus is on expressing an informed opinion (a term CNN once made fund of).
Mr. Obama and his Chicago crew have been very crafty in creating a cloud of confusion over the "abstract" that he furnished to FactCheck.org as a purported original birth certificate, when obviously it was nothing of the sort. Many millions of people were confused even though the term "abstract" was clearly visible on the FactCheck.org site (and even though FactCheck.org seems to have missed that significance, as well).
We will also be continuing and conducting the research and investigation we began in October to document Obama's origins in Hawai'i with interviews and contacts with people who knew his family and the other "players" in the Honolulu dramas of the 1970's and 80's.
As these comments are being prepared Sunday morning I can only conclude with a sense of deep humility at the enormity of the task and the nature of the burden. I continue to bear Barack Obama no ill will. Nevertheless, I passionately and sincerely believe that he owes the American people a detailed exposition of both his personal and his family history, and that he has not been candid with the American people. Without candor, he will not be able to establish the legitimacy that is essential for national leadership. He remains a stranger to the American people.
Barack Obama and his character assassins such as Robert Gibbs have done everything they can to demonize and defeat and intimidate me. They have failed utterly and abjectly. Tuesday morning I will stand up in court, stand tall, and stand proud for every American who believes Barack Obama needs to start telling the truth about himself. The election may be over. But the search for the truth about Mr. Obama is continuing.
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OK, stop laughing now.
I can just hear you sputtering: "why should we expect to start hearing anything of substance NOW???"
As I've mentioned in previous posts, Linda Shaw is keeping a bunch of us updated on the latest and greatest in regards to the missing proof that Obama is constitutionally allowed to BE the President. She is great at ferreting out this info!
ANDY MARTIN
Executive Editor
ContrarianCommentary.com
"Factually Correct, Not Politically Correct"
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
INTERNET POWERHOUSE ANDY MARTIN IS BACK IN HONOLULU TO FIGHT FOR ACCESS TO BARACK OBAMA'S ORIGINAL, TYPEWRITTEN 1961 BIRTH CERTIFICATE
AN INSIDE LOOK AT THE PREPARATION NECESSARY TO PRESENT A COMPLEX CONSTITUTIONAL CASE 8,000 MILES AWAY FROM HOME
(HONOLULU)
(November 16, 2008)
Aloha from Hawai'i.
I landed in Honolulu Friday and we have set up a fully functional "fighting camp" to prepare for the court hearing Tuesday, November 18th at 10:30 A.M. on access to Barack Obama's birth certificate
This will be the first court hearing anywhere on access to the original, 1961 certificate. The only state that has jurisdiction over such a lawsuit is Hawai'i, because Hawai'i officials are the custodians of the 1961 typewritten paperwork.
Before we get to the back story, let me start with a disclaimer. I have no idea what the judge will do on Tuesday. I make no predictions, except one: I will prepare to the best of my ability and present as professional a case as the judge permits. Monday morning I will be on the street serving papers and filing with the Clerk in preparation for Tuesday.
And, looking ahead, whatever happens on Tuesday, on Wednesday we hope to launch my "Conversation With America" about our future course of action in an Obama administration. I invite all of you to join in and support this mission.
Just as the FBI always attends every Gambino Family funeral to see who is there, ContrarianCommentary.com was in Honolulu Friday to observe the "independent" (not family-sponsored) "memorial service" held in memory of Barack Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Dunham. We will have a full column later Sunday, or possibly Monday.
It occurred to me that you might appreciate some insight into the effort that goes into preparing and presenting a major piece of litigation 8,000 miles away from home.
Anyone who has read our Memorandum of Law (see the ContrarianCommentary.com blogs below for a full copy) will not be surprised that it took us the better part of a week to analyze, research, write and finalize a 25-page document (which we will be filing with the Clerk on Monday morning) setting forth why Obama's birth certificate must be made public.
If a large law firm was handling the case of Martin vs. Obama, they would probably send a minimum team of four lawyers as well as support personnel. They would have a trial counsel, a couple of associates, and a senior partner to guide the overall process. There would be at least one paralegal, possibly more. That's why high stakes litigation is so costly.
Martin vs. Obama is a high stakes lawsuit: it seeks to open a vital record of American history to public review and analysis.
And I will be working alone.
Ask any lawyer: it's not easy landing in a strange town, setting up an office and firing off legal documents in a controversial constitutional case. But we managed to file the lawsuit two days after arriving in Honolulu in October, and now we are back for the first court hearing anywhere to address the issue of Barack Obama's origins.
Landing in an unfamiliar city, any lawyer would need a support network. We managed to recreate our October "fighting camp" in 24 hours and are up and running. I dragged a printer on the 12 hour flight because we have to be able to react immediately to any development. Saturday morning we were out assembling office supplies to be ready to move quickly on Monday morning.
I even purchased a box of envelopes so that if we have a breather, we can start mailing out thank you notes to everyone who contributed to the financial support of this very costly and complex venture. There is no wasted time on a trip of this nature, and no wasted money.
I will take time off Sunday morning to attend services at Saint Andrews (Episcopal) cathedral in downtown Honolulu. And I forgot to pack my sunglasses, so I need to go shopping for a pair.
Unlike other lawsuits involving Obama, mine is narrowly and specifically focused on access to the original, typewritten 1961 certificate which Hawai'i officials have confirmed they possess. There is no way anyone can express an opinion on the circumstances of Obama's birth without seeing the vital gateway document. I have refrained from speculating on the contents of the original because my focus is on expressing an informed opinion (a term CNN once made fund of).
Mr. Obama and his Chicago crew have been very crafty in creating a cloud of confusion over the "abstract" that he furnished to FactCheck.org as a purported original birth certificate, when obviously it was nothing of the sort. Many millions of people were confused even though the term "abstract" was clearly visible on the FactCheck.org site (and even though FactCheck.org seems to have missed that significance, as well).
We will also be continuing and conducting the research and investigation we began in October to document Obama's origins in Hawai'i with interviews and contacts with people who knew his family and the other "players" in the Honolulu dramas of the 1970's and 80's.
As these comments are being prepared Sunday morning I can only conclude with a sense of deep humility at the enormity of the task and the nature of the burden. I continue to bear Barack Obama no ill will. Nevertheless, I passionately and sincerely believe that he owes the American people a detailed exposition of both his personal and his family history, and that he has not been candid with the American people. Without candor, he will not be able to establish the legitimacy that is essential for national leadership. He remains a stranger to the American people.
Barack Obama and his character assassins such as Robert Gibbs have done everything they can to demonize and defeat and intimidate me. They have failed utterly and abjectly. Tuesday morning I will stand up in court, stand tall, and stand proud for every American who believes Barack Obama needs to start telling the truth about himself. The election may be over. But the search for the truth about Mr. Obama is continuing.
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Saturday, November 15, 2008
More on Barry's Birth Cert / Citzenship
I always liked Alan Keyes ;-) Here's the latest email I rec'd from Linda:
The country has the right to know the truth.
The campaigning is over and now people are learning about all the lawsuits against Obama's eligibility and the fact that he still refuses to present documentation. The MSM failed to report what we all had discovered. Now people are getting involved to learn the truth.
Andy Martin's case is in court Nov 18. The level he started his case and his reasons give him a good chance to put the questions to rest. Others are upcoming. Help them with their cases and be sure to write the justices and the electors.
Besides the new one filed on Nov 13, here is link that talks about the court cases.
http://americamustknow.com/default.aspx
http://americamustknow.com/allenkeys.aspx
Alan Keyes filing Writ of Mandate California
November 13 - Independent Party Takes Action
Alan Keyes and AIP electors will be filed against Secretary of State Debra Bowen and the Presidential Electors to verify Senator Obama's qualifications to serve as President.
Orly Taitz DDS Esq, attorney representing plaintiffs advised to release writ.
CASE #:34-2008-80000096-CU-WM-GDS Judge Michael Kinny
Filed 11/13/08 in the Superior Court of California in Sacremento
The country has the right to know the truth.
The campaigning is over and now people are learning about all the lawsuits against Obama's eligibility and the fact that he still refuses to present documentation. The MSM failed to report what we all had discovered. Now people are getting involved to learn the truth.
Andy Martin's case is in court Nov 18. The level he started his case and his reasons give him a good chance to put the questions to rest. Others are upcoming. Help them with their cases and be sure to write the justices and the electors.
Besides the new one filed on Nov 13, here is link that talks about the court cases.
http://americamustknow.com/default.aspx
http://americamustknow.com/allenkeys.aspx
Alan Keyes filing Writ of Mandate California
November 13 - Independent Party Takes Action
Alan Keyes and AIP electors will be filed against Secretary of State Debra Bowen and the Presidential Electors to verify Senator Obama's qualifications to serve as President.
Orly Taitz DDS Esq, attorney representing plaintiffs advised to release writ.
CASE #:34-2008-80000096-CU-WM-GDS Judge Michael Kinny
Filed 11/13/08 in the Superior Court of California in Sacremento
Obama's Birth Certificate and Citizenship Problems
I'm rec'd this info in a Yahoo group (TeamSarah2012) I'm in and thought it was great info, long, but gives you the ability to get involved and ACT before it's too late re: Obama's lack of bonafides (remember the movie Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?). Hat tip to Linda Shaw, she's doing a phenomenal job of collecting and disseminating this info!
The following is information everyone should know and action to take regardless of for whom you voted.
Note: It has been suggested that we all sign our letters: "A Friend of the Court."
There are two issues regarding Senator Obama:
his birth certificate proving that Obama was born in Hawaii.
his citizenship papers showing that Obama has U.S. citizenship.
In Indonesia, there are school records showing he was registered as Barry Soetero, with Indonesian citizenship. At age 10, Obama left Indonesia, using an Indonesian passport, to move back to Hawaii. At that point, he should have re-applied to become a citizen of the U.S.
Facts: Obama has yet to release birth certificate or citizenship documents (as well as others)
Why? It is a simple thing to present and stop the speculation and unify the country with the truth.
Fact: There have been state lawsuits filed and/or prepared in WA, FL, NC, CO, CA, OH, FL, CT, GA, TX, MI. Related lawsuits in HI, US District.
Some have been dismissed but they plan to refile. Andy Martin's lawsuit in Hi goes to court on November 18. By Mr. Martin starting in the District Court and with the reasons he is using, he actually has a very good chance of getting the standing that is needed. I read a long article on this last night on a law review.
Fact: Supreme Court lawsuits have been filed in PA and NJ
The one in NJ is in the process of being refiled. All the documents can be seen at:
http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/
The key fact surrounds two conversations between the plaintiff-appellant and a key Secretary of State Election Division official wherein the official admitted, twice, that the defendant-Secretary just assumed the candidates were eligible taking no further action to actually verify that they were, in fact, eligible to the office of President. These conversations took place on October 22nd and 23rd.
"Due to some very unorthodox treatment of the case in the NJ Appellate Division, and also by the US Supreme Court Clerk's office, a press conference is now being prepared to coincide with the resubmission of the Stay application to Justice Clarence Thomas."
However, the papers will be given to all the Supreme Court Justices to review.
In PA, the first filed lawsuit was by Phil Berg. It is now in the Supreme Court and Obama's lawyers have to answer the Writ by Dec 1. See Mr. Berg's website: www.obamacrimes.com
There are postings about this on numerous blogs stating that Obama has to present his BC by Dec 1. If you read this, please correct it. The judge has not ordered anything. Obama's lawyers most likely will answer with another motion, which Mr. Berg will answer, then the judge will probably make a decision on whether to proceed. It jeopardizes the case for false information to be floating around the Internet, per his assistant with whom I have spoken.
There is also an issue of who has the right to file and have standing, which brings us to the electoral committee. The electors are the ones who have to do the official voting for the people; therefore, they need to be sure the candidate for whom they are voting is eligible to be President. As of a couple of days ago, 24 electors have joined in the lawsuits asking for Obama to present his documents.
Dates to be aware of:
Quote:
December 15, 2008 - Meeting of Electors: The electors in each State meet to select the President and Vice President of the United States. The electors record their votes on six "Certificates of Vote," which are paired with the six remaining original "Certificates of Ascertainment." The electors sign, seal and certify the packages of electoral votes and immediately send them to the President of the Senate, the Archivist of the United States and other designated Federal and State officials.
* December 24, 2008 - Deadline for Receipt of Electoral Votes: The President of the Senate, the Archivist of the United States, and other designated Federal and State officials must have the electoral votes in hand.
* January 6, 2009 - Counting Electoral Votes in Congress: The Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes (unless Congress passes a law to change the date).
Things we can do to assure that Obama is eligible to be President and that our constitution is upheld:
1. Send a letter to all Supreme Court Justices requesting for them to please ensure our constitution is upheld and that Senator Barack Obama presents his birth certificate and citizenship papers to prove his eligibility to be President.
Address letters to:
The Honorable Associate Justice (Full Name)
United States Supreme Court
One First Street, N.E.,
Washington, D.C. 20543.
When writing to Chief Justice Roberts, please make sure the envelope is addressed to:
The Honorable John G. Roberts, Chief Justice of the United States
Send letters to the following:
John G. Roberts, Jr. Chief Justice of the United States
The Supreme Court Associate Justices are as follows:
John Paul Stevens
Samuel A. Alito Jr.
Antonin Scalia
Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Anthony M. Kennedy
David H. Sauter
Clarence Thomas
Stephen G. Breyer
FYI, Supreme Court HELPFUL TELEPHONE NUMBERS
Public Information Office: 202-479-3211, Reporters press 1
Clerk's Office: 202-479-3011
Visitor Information Line: 202-479-3030
Opinion Announcements: 202-479-3360
2. Write the electors to try to get the BC resolved. This is growing in power and 24 electors have agreed to be added to the lawsuits. You can do this on your own or visit the following website of Dr. Schell.
Dr. Douglas W. Schell has a site that has all the information one would need to write these, including a cover letter and attachments that will be added. Much has been added in just the last couple of days.
He has cover letters and other reference material available to use.:
http://www.democratic-disaster.com/index.php?topic=291.0
I actually wrote Dr. Schell as the letter needs to have included in it the request for the citizenship papers. Use the letter, however, include the request in the above sample letter to the justices regarding the citizenship papers. This will need to be added in the initial request of the letter and also where Dr. Schell says he will drop the case when the birth certificate is verified. Just change it to say when birth certificate and citizenship papers are verified. You can modify it to use without his name, however, they are trying to keep track of who is writing and would like you to post. We want to make sure all states are covered.
Electors' Names and Addresses
This is per state. There are 39 out of 50 states completed. It is still being added to so people need to check back frequently. Write your state and if you can write electors in other states, please do so.
. http://americamustknow.com/electoralcollegecase.aspx
There are some state laws prohibiting electors in those states to change their vote.
I suggest focusing on the states that do allow them to switch before moving on to the other states.
No Legal Requirement
Electors in these States are not bound by State Law to cast their vote for a specific candidate:
ARIZONA - 10 Electoral Votes
ARKANSAS - 6 Electoral Votes
DELAWARE - 3 Electoral Votes
GEORGIA - 15 Electoral Votes
IDAHO - 4 Electoral Votes
ILLINOIS - 21 Electoral Votes
INDIANA - 11 Electoral Votes
IOWA - 7 Electoral Votes
KANSAS - 6 Electoral Votes
KENTUCKY - 8 Electoral Votes
LOUISIANA - 9 Electoral Votes
MINNESOTA - 10 Electoral Votes MISSOURI - 11 Electoral Votes
NEW HAMPSHIRE - 4 Electoral Votes
NEW JERSEY - 15 Electoral Votes
NEW YORK - 31 Electoral Votes
NORTH DAKOTA - 3 Electoral Votes
PENNSYLVANIA - 21 Electoral Votes
RHODE ISLAND - 4 Electoral Votes
SOUTH DAKOTA - 3 Electoral Votes
TENNESSEE - 11 Electoral Votes
TEXAS - 34 Electoral Votes
UTAH - 5 Electoral Votes
WEST VIRGINIA - 5 Electoral Votes
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The following has the above list as well as the list that do not allow electors to change their vote without being slapped with a fine. There are only 8 states that McCain won that are in this category. The electors can still join the lawsuit and request the information.
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/laws.html
====================
.Also, if you want to write on your own without Dr. Schell's. Here is another letter you can forward with yours. It was actually a press release.
This letter can be included as any electors can contact him to be added to the lawsuit. There is also a website link to check out.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Vice presidential Candidate filing lawsuit against Obama
Contact: Steve Marquis
Telephone Number: 425-698-7084
Email Address: peoplesvoice@peoplespassions.org
Web site address: http://peoplespassions.org/
Wiley S. Drake, Sr. wileydrake@hotmail.com
Vice presidential Candidate Wiley S. Drake Sr. to file in court asking to
de-certify Barack Obama because he has refused to release proof of being a Natural Born Citizen, thereby disqualifying Obama in his bid for the Office of President.
The recent Lawsuit in Washington State demanding their Secretary of State to vet the citizenship credentials of Barack Obama has spawned a slew of similar suits with new lawsuits filed and/or prepared in WA, FL, NC, CO, CA, OH, FL, CT, GA, TX, MI. Related lawsuits HI, US District.
As part of this effort, this group of citizens from states across the union made an outreach to the whole presidential slate asking each candidate for president and vice president to offer up a certified copy of their birth certificates and any related candidate declarations to be placed in a library made available to the public via a non-partisan web site.
At least one VP candidate Wiley S. Drake Sr. went the next step and agreed to file a lawsuit of his own to demand the disqualification of Barack Obama unless he can prove status as a ”Natural Born Citizen” as the constitution and federal statues demand and define.
In another unrelated action, though also aimed at forcing Obama to release proof or step down, 24 potential Electoral College electors are filing action Monday morning in court also demanding proof. A call is herein being issued to any elector in any state, especially democrat electors who would like to join that effort. Electors interested in adding their name to this lawsuit can contact Mr. Marquis who will put you in contact with the attorney handling that case.
Contact: Steve Marquis
Telephone Number: 425-698-7084
Email Address: peoplesvoice@peoplespassions.org
The site that has info on writing the electors suggest certified/return receipt mail in case it is needed for court. It would be a good idea for any of these.
The following is information everyone should know and action to take regardless of for whom you voted.
Note: It has been suggested that we all sign our letters: "A Friend of the Court."
There are two issues regarding Senator Obama:
his birth certificate proving that Obama was born in Hawaii.
his citizenship papers showing that Obama has U.S. citizenship.
In Indonesia, there are school records showing he was registered as Barry Soetero, with Indonesian citizenship. At age 10, Obama left Indonesia, using an Indonesian passport, to move back to Hawaii. At that point, he should have re-applied to become a citizen of the U.S.
Facts: Obama has yet to release birth certificate or citizenship documents (as well as others)
Why? It is a simple thing to present and stop the speculation and unify the country with the truth.
Fact: There have been state lawsuits filed and/or prepared in WA, FL, NC, CO, CA, OH, FL, CT, GA, TX, MI. Related lawsuits in HI, US District.
Some have been dismissed but they plan to refile. Andy Martin's lawsuit in Hi goes to court on November 18. By Mr. Martin starting in the District Court and with the reasons he is using, he actually has a very good chance of getting the standing that is needed. I read a long article on this last night on a law review.
Fact: Supreme Court lawsuits have been filed in PA and NJ
The one in NJ is in the process of being refiled. All the documents can be seen at:
http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/
The key fact surrounds two conversations between the plaintiff-appellant and a key Secretary of State Election Division official wherein the official admitted, twice, that the defendant-Secretary just assumed the candidates were eligible taking no further action to actually verify that they were, in fact, eligible to the office of President. These conversations took place on October 22nd and 23rd.
"Due to some very unorthodox treatment of the case in the NJ Appellate Division, and also by the US Supreme Court Clerk's office, a press conference is now being prepared to coincide with the resubmission of the Stay application to Justice Clarence Thomas."
However, the papers will be given to all the Supreme Court Justices to review.
In PA, the first filed lawsuit was by Phil Berg. It is now in the Supreme Court and Obama's lawyers have to answer the Writ by Dec 1. See Mr. Berg's website: www.obamacrimes.com
There are postings about this on numerous blogs stating that Obama has to present his BC by Dec 1. If you read this, please correct it. The judge has not ordered anything. Obama's lawyers most likely will answer with another motion, which Mr. Berg will answer, then the judge will probably make a decision on whether to proceed. It jeopardizes the case for false information to be floating around the Internet, per his assistant with whom I have spoken.
There is also an issue of who has the right to file and have standing, which brings us to the electoral committee. The electors are the ones who have to do the official voting for the people; therefore, they need to be sure the candidate for whom they are voting is eligible to be President. As of a couple of days ago, 24 electors have joined in the lawsuits asking for Obama to present his documents.
Dates to be aware of:
Quote:
December 15, 2008 - Meeting of Electors: The electors in each State meet to select the President and Vice President of the United States. The electors record their votes on six "Certificates of Vote," which are paired with the six remaining original "Certificates of Ascertainment." The electors sign, seal and certify the packages of electoral votes and immediately send them to the President of the Senate, the Archivist of the United States and other designated Federal and State officials.
* December 24, 2008 - Deadline for Receipt of Electoral Votes: The President of the Senate, the Archivist of the United States, and other designated Federal and State officials must have the electoral votes in hand.
* January 6, 2009 - Counting Electoral Votes in Congress: The Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes (unless Congress passes a law to change the date).
Things we can do to assure that Obama is eligible to be President and that our constitution is upheld:
1. Send a letter to all Supreme Court Justices requesting for them to please ensure our constitution is upheld and that Senator Barack Obama presents his birth certificate and citizenship papers to prove his eligibility to be President.
Address letters to:
The Honorable Associate Justice (Full Name)
United States Supreme Court
One First Street, N.E.,
Washington, D.C. 20543.
When writing to Chief Justice Roberts, please make sure the envelope is addressed to:
The Honorable John G. Roberts, Chief Justice of the United States
Sample letter:
[QUOTE] Dear Honorable Associate Justice (last name), or
Chief Justice Roberts when writing him
I am writing to ask you to please
uphold our constitution by verifying the eligibility of Barack Obama to be the
President of the United States. There is much speculation and the only way for
the country to feel secure that he is eligible is for you to settle this matter.
Please request Barack Obama to present his birth certificate to the
courts for verification. Please also request any citizenship papers showing he
acquired U.S. citizenship when he moved from Indonesia back to Hawaii. This
latter request is due to school records from Indonesia showing he was enrolled
as Barry Soetero, with Indonesian citizenship.
Thank you for your
honorable service to our country and for upholding our constitution in these
trying times.
Sincerely,
Send letters to the following:
John G. Roberts, Jr. Chief Justice of the United States
The Supreme Court Associate Justices are as follows:
John Paul Stevens
Samuel A. Alito Jr.
Antonin Scalia
Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Anthony M. Kennedy
David H. Sauter
Clarence Thomas
Stephen G. Breyer
FYI, Supreme Court HELPFUL TELEPHONE NUMBERS
Public Information Office: 202-479-3211, Reporters press 1
Clerk's Office: 202-479-3011
Visitor Information Line: 202-479-3030
Opinion Announcements: 202-479-3360
2. Write the electors to try to get the BC resolved. This is growing in power and 24 electors have agreed to be added to the lawsuits. You can do this on your own or visit the following website of Dr. Schell.
Dr. Douglas W. Schell has a site that has all the information one would need to write these, including a cover letter and attachments that will be added. Much has been added in just the last couple of days.
He has cover letters and other reference material available to use.:
http://www.democratic-disaster.com/index.php?topic=291.0
I actually wrote Dr. Schell as the letter needs to have included in it the request for the citizenship papers. Use the letter, however, include the request in the above sample letter to the justices regarding the citizenship papers. This will need to be added in the initial request of the letter and also where Dr. Schell says he will drop the case when the birth certificate is verified. Just change it to say when birth certificate and citizenship papers are verified. You can modify it to use without his name, however, they are trying to keep track of who is writing and would like you to post. We want to make sure all states are covered.
Electors' Names and Addresses
This is per state. There are 39 out of 50 states completed. It is still being added to so people need to check back frequently. Write your state and if you can write electors in other states, please do so.
. http://americamustknow.com/electoralcollegecase.aspx
There are some state laws prohibiting electors in those states to change their vote.
I suggest focusing on the states that do allow them to switch before moving on to the other states.
No Legal Requirement
Electors in these States are not bound by State Law to cast their vote for a specific candidate:
ARIZONA - 10 Electoral Votes
ARKANSAS - 6 Electoral Votes
DELAWARE - 3 Electoral Votes
GEORGIA - 15 Electoral Votes
IDAHO - 4 Electoral Votes
ILLINOIS - 21 Electoral Votes
INDIANA - 11 Electoral Votes
IOWA - 7 Electoral Votes
KANSAS - 6 Electoral Votes
KENTUCKY - 8 Electoral Votes
LOUISIANA - 9 Electoral Votes
MINNESOTA - 10 Electoral Votes MISSOURI - 11 Electoral Votes
NEW HAMPSHIRE - 4 Electoral Votes
NEW JERSEY - 15 Electoral Votes
NEW YORK - 31 Electoral Votes
NORTH DAKOTA - 3 Electoral Votes
PENNSYLVANIA - 21 Electoral Votes
RHODE ISLAND - 4 Electoral Votes
SOUTH DAKOTA - 3 Electoral Votes
TENNESSEE - 11 Electoral Votes
TEXAS - 34 Electoral Votes
UTAH - 5 Electoral Votes
WEST VIRGINIA - 5 Electoral Votes
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The following has the above list as well as the list that do not allow electors to change their vote without being slapped with a fine. There are only 8 states that McCain won that are in this category. The electors can still join the lawsuit and request the information.
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/laws.html
====================
.Also, if you want to write on your own without Dr. Schell's. Here is another letter you can forward with yours. It was actually a press release.
This letter can be included as any electors can contact him to be added to the lawsuit. There is also a website link to check out.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Vice presidential Candidate filing lawsuit against Obama
Contact: Steve Marquis
Telephone Number: 425-698-7084
Email Address: peoplesvoice@peoplespassions.org
Web site address: http://peoplespassions.org/
Wiley S. Drake, Sr. wileydrake@hotmail.com
Vice presidential Candidate Wiley S. Drake Sr. to file in court asking to
de-certify Barack Obama because he has refused to release proof of being a Natural Born Citizen, thereby disqualifying Obama in his bid for the Office of President.
The recent Lawsuit in Washington State demanding their Secretary of State to vet the citizenship credentials of Barack Obama has spawned a slew of similar suits with new lawsuits filed and/or prepared in WA, FL, NC, CO, CA, OH, FL, CT, GA, TX, MI. Related lawsuits HI, US District.
As part of this effort, this group of citizens from states across the union made an outreach to the whole presidential slate asking each candidate for president and vice president to offer up a certified copy of their birth certificates and any related candidate declarations to be placed in a library made available to the public via a non-partisan web site.
At least one VP candidate Wiley S. Drake Sr. went the next step and agreed to file a lawsuit of his own to demand the disqualification of Barack Obama unless he can prove status as a ”Natural Born Citizen” as the constitution and federal statues demand and define.
In another unrelated action, though also aimed at forcing Obama to release proof or step down, 24 potential Electoral College electors are filing action Monday morning in court also demanding proof. A call is herein being issued to any elector in any state, especially democrat electors who would like to join that effort. Electors interested in adding their name to this lawsuit can contact Mr. Marquis who will put you in contact with the attorney handling that case.
Contact: Steve Marquis
Telephone Number: 425-698-7084
Email Address: peoplesvoice@peoplespassions.org
The site that has info on writing the electors suggest certified/return receipt mail in case it is needed for court. It would be a good idea for any of these.
Monday, November 10, 2008
Egobama's Birth Certificate Still an Issue
Hi all, I wanted to pass this along for you to check out (I'm going to use "egobama" from now on!):
A message from Dawn (aka Donya) to all members of Rush Limbaugh Fans for Sarah Palin on Team Sarah!
Patriots, Forgive me if I’m repeating something you are already aware of, but I want to canvas our site with this letter.
Is everyone aware of what’s STILL in the balance regarding BHO’s birth certificate? I just heard an interview on the radio late last night with the man who is heading-up this suit and claim (that Obama is NOT a natural-born U.S. citizen).
It has NOT been thrown out of court nor resolved yet. There was merely a technical reason (forgive me for not knowing the legal term) why the judge who reviewed it couldn’t weigh in on it.
So now it is moving on to some other level in the courts, and won’t even be reviewed until January 1st (days away from inauguration!).
In the meantime, Obama is getting briefed daily on our nation’s most TOP SECRET issues by our current president and his transition team! Anyway, if this is true, it will be the BIGGEST HOAX in the history of our country (possibly the world), and it is swiftly approaching.
This is a blatant disregard for our Constitutional law!
Forget Bill Ayers, forget Jeremiah Wright, forget “spreading the wealth around”... how about having a U.S. president breaking the first rule of Constitutional law?! And NO ONE’S COVERING THIS (big surprise).
We’re not asking to see his SS number, his health records, or tax records... we’re asking for the same document that ALL of us have to present in order to function as upstanding citizens.
I’m asking everyone to PLEASE go to www.obamacrimes.com, read the info, and PLEASE consider donating to fighting this most important law suit. If everyone on this site donated just $10, we would raise $550,000 towards the legal battle, and put it to rest. Remember, Obama is well entrenched and surrounded by all of his dirty, Chicago, legal team, thugs. Pass this on within this network AND via emails ASAP.
God bless the U.S.A.
Dawn
(aka Donya)
A message from Dawn (aka Donya) to all members of Rush Limbaugh Fans for Sarah Palin on Team Sarah!
Patriots, Forgive me if I’m repeating something you are already aware of, but I want to canvas our site with this letter.
Is everyone aware of what’s STILL in the balance regarding BHO’s birth certificate? I just heard an interview on the radio late last night with the man who is heading-up this suit and claim (that Obama is NOT a natural-born U.S. citizen).
It has NOT been thrown out of court nor resolved yet. There was merely a technical reason (forgive me for not knowing the legal term) why the judge who reviewed it couldn’t weigh in on it.
So now it is moving on to some other level in the courts, and won’t even be reviewed until January 1st (days away from inauguration!).
In the meantime, Obama is getting briefed daily on our nation’s most TOP SECRET issues by our current president and his transition team! Anyway, if this is true, it will be the BIGGEST HOAX in the history of our country (possibly the world), and it is swiftly approaching.
This is a blatant disregard for our Constitutional law!
Forget Bill Ayers, forget Jeremiah Wright, forget “spreading the wealth around”... how about having a U.S. president breaking the first rule of Constitutional law?! And NO ONE’S COVERING THIS (big surprise).
We’re not asking to see his SS number, his health records, or tax records... we’re asking for the same document that ALL of us have to present in order to function as upstanding citizens.
I’m asking everyone to PLEASE go to www.obamacrimes.com, read the info, and PLEASE consider donating to fighting this most important law suit. If everyone on this site donated just $10, we would raise $550,000 towards the legal battle, and put it to rest. Remember, Obama is well entrenched and surrounded by all of his dirty, Chicago, legal team, thugs. Pass this on within this network AND via emails ASAP.
God bless the U.S.A.
Dawn
(aka Donya)
Monday, October 13, 2008
Why won't Obama show us his birth certificate?
If I were running for President, or an office of any sort, and someone started questioning my place of birth, I'd show them my birth certificate and be done with it. What's the big deal Obama? Why won't you show your birth certificate? Why fight it in court? Why waste the money and time? If it's legit, it's legit. I would normally have a tendency to brush this off, but it is a simple request to ask of someone who's running for office. Lots of questions asked on this video and they deserve an answer. A simple answer.
Just curious --- can't anyone get a copy of a birth certificate? What's the legal aspect of this one? Aren't birth certificates filed at the local courthouse? I had to request mine years back and I didn't know where I was born at the time. It wasn't a big deal to find out and to get copies for my records. It just doesn't make sense that Obama would hide this one if there's nothing to hide.
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