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Saturday, November 15, 2008

Obama's Birth Certificate and Citizenship Problems

I'm rec'd this info in a Yahoo group (TeamSarah2012) I'm in and thought it was great info, long, but gives you the ability to get involved and ACT before it's too late re: Obama's lack of bonafides (remember the movie Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?). Hat tip to Linda Shaw, she's doing a phenomenal job of collecting and disseminating this info!

The following is information everyone should know and action to take regardless of for whom you voted.

Note: It has been suggested that we all sign our letters: "A Friend of the Court."

There are two issues regarding Senator Obama:
his birth certificate proving that Obama was born in Hawaii.
his citizenship papers showing that Obama has U.S. citizenship.
In Indonesia, there are school records showing he was registered as Barry Soetero, with Indonesian citizenship. At age 10, Obama left Indonesia, using an Indonesian passport, to move back to Hawaii. At that point, he should have re-applied to become a citizen of the U.S.

Facts: Obama has yet to release birth certificate or citizenship documents (as well as others)
Why? It is a simple thing to present and stop the speculation and unify the country with the truth.

Fact: There have been state lawsuits filed and/or prepared in WA, FL, NC, CO, CA, OH, FL, CT, GA, TX, MI. Related lawsuits in HI, US District.
Some have been dismissed but they plan to refile. Andy Martin's lawsuit in Hi goes to court on November 18. By Mr. Martin starting in the District Court and with the reasons he is using, he actually has a very good chance of getting the standing that is needed. I read a long article on this last night on a law review.

Fact: Supreme Court lawsuits have been filed in PA and NJ
The one in NJ is in the process of being refiled. All the documents can be seen at:
The key fact surrounds two conversations between the plaintiff-appellant and a key Secretary of State Election Division official wherein the official admitted, twice, that the defendant-Secretary just assumed the candidates were eligible taking no further action to actually verify that they were, in fact, eligible to the office of President. These conversations took place on October 22nd and 23rd.

"Due to some very unorthodox treatment of the case in the NJ Appellate Division, and also by the US Supreme Court Clerk's office, a press conference is now being prepared to coincide with the resubmission of the Stay application to Justice Clarence Thomas."
However, the papers will be given to all the Supreme Court Justices to review.

In PA, the first filed lawsuit was by Phil Berg. It is now in the Supreme Court and Obama's lawyers have to answer the Writ by Dec 1. See Mr. Berg's website: www.obamacrimes.com

There are postings about this on numerous blogs stating that Obama has to present his BC by Dec 1. If you read this, please correct it. The judge has not ordered anything. Obama's lawyers most likely will answer with another motion, which Mr. Berg will answer, then the judge will probably make a decision on whether to proceed. It jeopardizes the case for false information to be floating around the Internet, per his assistant with whom I have spoken.

There is also an issue of who has the right to file and have standing, which brings us to the electoral committee. The electors are the ones who have to do the official voting for the people; therefore, they need to be sure the candidate for whom they are voting is eligible to be President. As of a couple of days ago, 24 electors have joined in the lawsuits asking for Obama to present his documents.

Dates to be aware of:


December 15, 2008 - Meeting of Electors: The electors in each State meet to select the President and Vice President of the United States. The electors record their votes on six "Certificates of Vote," which are paired with the six remaining original "Certificates of Ascertainment." The electors sign, seal and certify the packages of electoral votes and immediately send them to the President of the Senate, the Archivist of the United States and other designated Federal and State officials.

* December 24, 2008 - Deadline for Receipt of Electoral Votes: The President of the Senate, the Archivist of the United States, and other designated Federal and State officials must have the electoral votes in hand.

* January 6, 2009 - Counting Electoral Votes in Congress: The Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes (unless Congress passes a law to change the date).

Things we can do to assure that Obama is eligible to be President and that our constitution is upheld:

1. Send a letter to all Supreme Court Justices requesting for them to please ensure our constitution is upheld and that Senator Barack Obama presents his birth certificate and citizenship papers to prove his eligibility to be President.

Address letters to:

The Honorable Associate Justice (Full Name)
United States Supreme Court
One First Street, N.E.,
Washington, D.C. 20543.

When writing to Chief Justice Roberts, please make sure the envelope is addressed to:

The Honorable John G. Roberts, Chief Justice of the United States
Sample letter:

[QUOTE] Dear Honorable Associate Justice (last name), or
Chief Justice Roberts when writing him

I am writing to ask you to please
uphold our constitution by verifying the eligibility of Barack Obama to be the
President of the United States. There is much speculation and the only way for
the country to feel secure that he is eligible is for you to settle this matter.

Please request Barack Obama to present his birth certificate to the
courts for verification. Please also request any citizenship papers showing he
acquired U.S. citizenship when he moved from Indonesia back to Hawaii. This
latter request is due to school records from Indonesia showing he was enrolled
as Barry Soetero, with Indonesian citizenship.

Thank you for your
honorable service to our country and for upholding our constitution in these
trying times.


Send letters to the following:
John G. Roberts, Jr. Chief Justice of the United States

The Supreme Court Associate Justices are as follows:

John Paul Stevens
Samuel A. Alito Jr.
Antonin Scalia
Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Anthony M. Kennedy
David H. Sauter
Clarence Thomas
Stephen G. Breyer


Public Information Office: 202-479-3211, Reporters press 1
Clerk's Office: 202-479-3011
Visitor Information Line: 202-479-3030
Opinion Announcements: 202-479-3360

2. Write the electors to try to get the BC resolved. This is growing in power and 24 electors have agreed to be added to the lawsuits. You can do this on your own or visit the following website of Dr. Schell.

Dr. Douglas W. Schell has a site that has all the information one would need to write these, including a cover letter and attachments that will be added. Much has been added in just the last couple of days.

He has cover letters and other reference material available to use.:

I actually wrote Dr. Schell as the letter needs to have included in it the request for the citizenship papers. Use the letter, however, include the request in the above sample letter to the justices regarding the citizenship papers. This will need to be added in the initial request of the letter and also where Dr. Schell says he will drop the case when the birth certificate is verified. Just change it to say when birth certificate and citizenship papers are verified. You can modify it to use without his name, however, they are trying to keep track of who is writing and would like you to post. We want to make sure all states are covered.

Electors' Names and Addresses

This is per state. There are 39 out of 50 states completed. It is still being added to so people need to check back frequently. Write your state and if you can write electors in other states, please do so.
. http://americamustknow.com/electoralcollegecase.aspx

There are some state laws prohibiting electors in those states to change their vote.
I suggest focusing on the states that do allow them to switch before moving on to the other states.

No Legal Requirement

Electors in these States are not bound by State Law to cast their vote for a specific candidate:
ARIZONA - 10 Electoral Votes
ARKANSAS - 6 Electoral Votes
DELAWARE - 3 Electoral Votes
GEORGIA - 15 Electoral Votes
IDAHO - 4 Electoral Votes
ILLINOIS - 21 Electoral Votes
INDIANA - 11 Electoral Votes
IOWA - 7 Electoral Votes
KANSAS - 6 Electoral Votes
KENTUCKY - 8 Electoral Votes
LOUISIANA - 9 Electoral Votes
MINNESOTA - 10 Electoral Votes MISSOURI - 11 Electoral Votes
NEW HAMPSHIRE - 4 Electoral Votes
NEW JERSEY - 15 Electoral Votes
NEW YORK - 31 Electoral Votes
NORTH DAKOTA - 3 Electoral Votes
PENNSYLVANIA - 21 Electoral Votes
RHODE ISLAND - 4 Electoral Votes
SOUTH DAKOTA - 3 Electoral Votes
TENNESSEE - 11 Electoral Votes
TEXAS - 34 Electoral Votes
UTAH - 5 Electoral Votes
WEST VIRGINIA - 5 Electoral Votes

The following has the above list as well as the list that do not allow electors to change their vote without being slapped with a fine. There are only 8 states that McCain won that are in this category. The electors can still join the lawsuit and request the information.


.Also, if you want to write on your own without Dr. Schell's. Here is another letter you can forward with yours. It was actually a press release.

This letter can be included as any electors can contact him to be added to the lawsuit. There is also a website link to check out.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Vice presidential Candidate filing lawsuit against Obama

Contact: Steve Marquis
Telephone Number: 425-698-7084
Email Address: peoplesvoice@peoplespassions.org
Web site address: http://peoplespassions.org/

Wiley S. Drake, Sr. wileydrake@hotmail.com

Vice presidential Candidate Wiley S. Drake Sr. to file in court asking to
de-certify Barack Obama because he has refused to release proof of being a Natural Born Citizen, thereby disqualifying Obama in his bid for the Office of President.

The recent Lawsuit in Washington State demanding their Secretary of State to vet the citizenship credentials of Barack Obama has spawned a slew of similar suits with new lawsuits filed and/or prepared in WA, FL, NC, CO, CA, OH, FL, CT, GA, TX, MI. Related lawsuits HI, US District.

As part of this effort, this group of citizens from states across the union made an outreach to the whole presidential slate asking each candidate for president and vice president to offer up a certified copy of their birth certificates and any related candidate declarations to be placed in a library made available to the public via a non-partisan web site.

At least one VP candidate Wiley S. Drake Sr. went the next step and agreed to file a lawsuit of his own to demand the disqualification of Barack Obama unless he can prove status as a ”Natural Born Citizen” as the constitution and federal statues demand and define.

In another unrelated action, though also aimed at forcing Obama to release proof or step down, 24 potential Electoral College electors are filing action Monday morning in court also demanding proof. A call is herein being issued to any elector in any state, especially democrat electors who would like to join that effort. Electors interested in adding their name to this lawsuit can contact Mr. Marquis who will put you in contact with the attorney handling that case.

Contact: Steve Marquis
Telephone Number: 425-698-7084
Email Address: peoplesvoice@peoplespassions.org

The site that has info on writing the electors suggest certified/return receipt mail in case it is needed for court. It would be a good idea for any of these.

1 comment:

Ted said...

Unavoidable scenario: If SCOTUS disqualifies Obama BEFORE 1/20/09 inauguration, McCain is POTUS per remaining electoral college electors; if SCOTUS disqualifies Obama after 1/20/09 inauguration, Hillary likely becomes POTUS per vote of Dem controlled House of Rep. Either way, is clear Obama will NOT be or remain POTUS.